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		<title>By: magnet generator</title>
		<link>http://www.sitsite.com/blog/2008/12/energy-solutions-with-an-sit-twist/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>magnet generator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, a good site that isn't in my face trying to constantly sell me something. Thanks, please keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, a good site that isn&#8217;t in my face trying to constantly sell me something. Thanks, please keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomit</title>
		<link>http://www.sitsite.com/blog/2008/12/energy-solutions-with-an-sit-twist/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example:<br />
<a href="http://www.designboom.com/contest/view.php?contest_pk=28&amp;item_pk=33866&amp;p=1" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.designboom.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.designboom.com/contest/view.php?contest_pk=28&amp;item_pk=33866&amp;p=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: home made wind generators</title>
		<link>http://www.sitsite.com/blog/2008/12/energy-solutions-with-an-sit-twist/#comment-448</link>
		<dc:creator>home made wind generators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat writing,, will come back again/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat writing,, will come back again/</p>
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		<title>By: Become greener by breaking fixedness at Innovation by SIT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Become greener by breaking fixedness at Innovation by SIT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 10:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shlomit Tassa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shlomit Tassa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Amy, I'm glad you liked the post.

As I said to Amnon, I'm intrigued to know what is the overall environmental impact of all of the examples we've discussed here.  All the articles mentiononly  the energy generated by the devices, but none of the energy invested in creating them, let alone the raw materials, transportation, etc.  So whereas it seems that these inventions would "pay back for themselves" in electricity costs quite quickly, there is additional environmental cost that is not being captured in this calculation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Amy, I&#8217;m glad you liked the post.</p>
<p>As I said to Amnon, I&#8217;m intrigued to know what is the overall environmental impact of all of the examples we&#8217;ve discussed here.  All the articles mentiononly  the energy generated by the devices, but none of the energy invested in creating them, let alone the raw materials, transportation, etc.  So whereas it seems that these inventions would &#8220;pay back for themselves&#8221; in electricity costs quite quickly, there is additional environmental cost that is not being captured in this calculation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: garden gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>garden gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't normally comment on blogs but your post was a real help. Thank you for a great topic, I will be sure to bookmark your site and check it out again. Cheers, Amy xXx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally comment on blogs but your post was a real help. Thank you for a great topic, I will be sure to bookmark your site and check it out again. Cheers, Amy xXx.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomit Tassa</title>
		<link>http://www.sitsite.com/blog/2008/12/energy-solutions-with-an-sit-twist/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Shlomit Tassa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amnon,

I totally agree, but it made me think that to maintain the sustainability of the idea, it's really important that the "mediating TU" is part of the closed world.  If not, then new elements are brought in, and they have an impact in and of themselves.  This is actually true for many of the above examples, because they use various elements for creating the electric charge, that were probably not there before.  Granted, Edison, too, must have connected the gate and water pump (two elements of the CW) with some additional element, and that element may have been new.  The slickness and sustainability of these solutions really depends on the total cost and environmental impact of the new element/s used for the unification.  See, for example, the following example, and consider the weights and magnets used to create the electric charge (the mediating elements):
http://springwise.com/eco_sustainability/charging_mobile_phones_by_danc/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amnon,</p>
<p>I totally agree, but it made me think that to maintain the sustainability of the idea, it&#8217;s really important that the &#8220;mediating TU&#8221; is part of the closed world.  If not, then new elements are brought in, and they have an impact in and of themselves.  This is actually true for many of the above examples, because they use various elements for creating the electric charge, that were probably not there before.  Granted, Edison, too, must have connected the gate and water pump (two elements of the CW) with some additional element, and that element may have been new.  The slickness and sustainability of these solutions really depends on the total cost and environmental impact of the new element/s used for the unification.  See, for example, the following example, and consider the weights and magnets used to create the electric charge (the mediating elements):<br />
<a href="http://springwise.com/eco_sustainability/charging_mobile_phones_by_danc/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/springwise.com');" rel="nofollow">http://springwise.com/eco_sustainability/charging_mobile_phones_by_danc/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amnon Levav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amnon Levav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Shlomit
Good point. lots of opportunities around. Just wanted to comment that in Edison's gate one tends ot focus on the fact that the guests received the additional task of pumping up the water. But it is worthwhile noting that there is another element that received a new task - the gate. Normally its task is to guard the entrance and here it is used to convert (unwittingly) the guests' energy into pumping energy. This observation may be useful because there is a pattern here as well:
1) most Task Unifications dont come alone, rather they create opportunities for chains of TUs. for example, in the mattress idea, one can think of activities other than sleep that may generate even more energy, then one thinkos of the capacitator and looks around for candidates to do this job without need for a brand new element, so maybe the PC's battery can retain the energy, then you can think of a variety of functions that are needed around and in the bed anyway and see if you can pump the energy directly to them. then you think that actually if someone is moving a lot in their sleep this isnt so good, so why not go for a feedback loop - while you move the energy is used to lull you to a more relaxed slumber and when you are relaxed there is no need to do so etc etc
2) very often, in a TU idea, there is need ofr a "mediating TU" as in the gate, because it is not easy to put the component to work directly. many an idea has been killed because the invetors stopped one TU too early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Shlomit<br />
Good point. lots of opportunities around. Just wanted to comment that in Edison&#8217;s gate one tends ot focus on the fact that the guests received the additional task of pumping up the water. But it is worthwhile noting that there is another element that received a new task - the gate. Normally its task is to guard the entrance and here it is used to convert (unwittingly) the guests&#8217; energy into pumping energy. This observation may be useful because there is a pattern here as well:<br />
1) most Task Unifications dont come alone, rather they create opportunities for chains of TUs. for example, in the mattress idea, one can think of activities other than sleep that may generate even more energy, then one thinkos of the capacitator and looks around for candidates to do this job without need for a brand new element, so maybe the PC&#8217;s battery can retain the energy, then you can think of a variety of functions that are needed around and in the bed anyway and see if you can pump the energy directly to them. then you think that actually if someone is moving a lot in their sleep this isnt so good, so why not go for a feedback loop - while you move the energy is used to lull you to a more relaxed slumber and when you are relaxed there is no need to do so etc etc<br />
2) very often, in a TU idea, there is need ofr a &#8220;mediating TU&#8221; as in the gate, because it is not easy to put the component to work directly. many an idea has been killed because the invetors stopped one TU too early.</p>
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